I'm mostly interested in data, here, but comments are more than welcome!! ((especially if it helps in understanding.))

Thanks!!

EDIT: I fixed the poll for you. //BZ

I seriously thought this discussion has been made already, but as I look back I notice that it's not. Wow. It seems like this discussion has been going on and on and on and on in every forum I've been.

Also, this should be in the Intellectual Discussion.

*MOVED*

Ok this topic has been moved to the proper forum. Also Sparky, can't edit the poll once it has been made.

Well, to answer the first part, I'm straight. And on the issue if it's a choice or not, at this point, I really don't care. This topic, though it still a major issue in politics, has really been dragged on long enough and nothing really significant to me has changed that. Like most conflicts, both sides always think the other is completely wrong and will always come up with some reason or counter-argument to support their belief.

I'm straight and do not think it's a choice either.

Gays/Straight/Bi

I'm mostly straight (I'm slightly interested in the same gender, but not enough to be bi), but I don't think it's a matter of choice/no choice, it's something unfolding/random

I'm straight and dont think its a choice.

I am straight and I do not think it is a choice.

I think it will depend on the person whether it's a choice or not, some people are gay but turn it back in a later stage of life in that case I would say it's a choice, while on others it's not a choice but something natural that evolves through life (and yes It's natural it happens in nature too so the idiots who say it's against nature have no clue what they are talking about)

Ps. Straight but best friend is Bi
Pps. Chose undecided not for my own preference but rather for the choice part

Bi.


I feel alone XD


But being a sexuallity isn't a choice. You're born gay/bisexual, just like you're born straight.

Besides the fact, I'm always a big believer that love shouldn't come between genders. Male or female I find everyone beautiful.

i am Undecided because i don't leave my house much and i only leave really for baseball, school and the occasionally movie i get invited to

Being Gay is alright, if I wasn't going to big school, I would feel alone and scared but I have a few Gay friends and I feel fine. As for it being a choice, I think thats crap, do people choose to be straight? You are born the way you are because God made you that way.

I'm straight. However, I can have a slight attraction to men, like.. persay, I can tell when another guy is attractive and admit to it. That's not a problem. But it's not a strong enough attraction to have a relationship, or undergo intimicy with the person.

As for the choice, I don't think a person chooses their sexual preferences. Why would someone choose to be homosexual, a trait looked down upon by so many people? Bull.

I am Straight. and I think it is a choice..like everything else in the world.

I am STRAIGHT and I think it is a choice. [YES]

you choose what kind of person you like (cute, smart, etc...), but you can't pick what gender?

i don't think so. rather, i think it's as easy as picking what you're going to eat for lunch, 357 days from now. :)

I'm actually none of those listed-- I've come the conclusion I'm pan sexual. I had this discussion with my aunt just today. The younger generations now a days, just say they're bisexual or convert to being homosexual/lesbian, because they're confused, suffered through bad relationships and come to the conclusion that the opposite gender is nothing but lying and stupid, or just releases their emotions on some people of the same genders, and un-lock sexual urges and there by, just 'state' they're bisexual or gay, because they've only experimented with the same gender and haven't had a real relationship with the opposite sex. I don't think people are born straight, gay, lesbian, etc. They just come as it is, it's like a choice, but then it isn't. It just, well happens.

Though, I've made my choices on my preference, when I was little, of course I was straight [Then again a lot of kids think they are, till come time they're older, hohoho.], then during middle school was bisexual, and now I'm pan sexual, but labeled as bi-- which is no problem for me at all, 'cause I really don't care. So whatever, sexual preference is merely something that sometimes you can choose, or it's just something that happens. I know, I made no sense at all, right?

Yeah, you make no sense whatsoever, lol. How old are you if you don't mind me asking?

I have a feeling you're going through puberty and are currently questioning your sexuality and also maybe one of the reasons why you can't fully explain your own ideas. But I don't know. You could be a 40 year old straight dude trying to make a good laugh for himself for all I know.

Just so you know, I love you.


Everyone Else: I agree that it is the journey that decides the orientation for you.

I AM STRAIGHT THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!

I'm a teenager, and haha, I already know my sexuality. I just can't explain things very well, mate. So yeah, haha.

Yea I am straight

Straight and I think its a choice, theres always choices to be made in life...

...yeah like being lactose intolerant.

...yeah because too much gay can kill people.

it's a choice. there's nothing, *apparent*, in your body or mind that tells someone what your sexual orientation is. can the same be said for people that are lactose intolerant?

tell me: is it the large or small intestine that decides if you're a homosexual?


also, don't bring up the whole "boner" argument. one can control one's mind (when there isn't anything wrong with it to begin with, of course (and lots of people argue that a homosexual's mind is the same as everyone else's (unless they're messed up, but we've been over this -.-))).

if i think i'm on fire long enough, i'll eventually feel as though i'm on fire.
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if i think i like men long enough, i'll eventually get so hard i could crack a concrete wall in two.

There are things about you that are proven to be something that you can't choose for yourself like for example your eye and hair color.

I don't think any of you sat down and thought about what sexual orientation you were going to be as it just came natural for everyone to be a certain way.

nor have i really ever sat down and thought about the type of girl i like.

and even though that's the case, it's still a choice.


everyone is born good. no one is a criminal the second their mom pops them out.

however, they have the choice to be evil or a criminal.
once they enter this world, they can live how they want to live, and like what they want to like. it's never set in stone.

I'm straight B)

In a way, yes.

I'm sure nearly all of you have heard of pheromones.

"A pheromone is a chemical that triggers a natural behavioral response in another member of the same species. There are alarm pheromones, food trail pheromones, sex pheromones, and many others that affect behavior or physiology.

Sex pheromones
In animals, sex pheromones indicate the availability of the female for breeding."

Basically, a pheromone is a chemical or sent, if you will, that is released from the body. These chemicals are released from anywhere on the body. I believe, however, that one of the strongest 'ducts', if we can call them that, is to the side of the nose. The receptors are, of course, the nose itself.

In other words, the body releases an undetectable sent that, when inhaled or accepted by another creature ((usually opposite sex)) it causes a reaction in the body. We call this being "turned on" or "horny".

This is why some people have a stronger sexual pull than others.

Believe, for a minute, that there can be a minor birth defect or even psychological defect that causes someone to accept the wrong pheromones?

After all, it is true that gays get turned on by male pheromones. ((and lesbians to by female)) I'll find an article later.




In response to your belief that we chose our orientation.. To believe such means that EVERY human has to have been bisexual at one point in their life in order to choose between the two.

After all, since you say you are straight, can you see YOURSELF up and deciding to be gay? I assume not. It works the same with gays, they cannot decide to be straight.

Also, if gays choose, then they indeed must have been straight at one point in time. Am I wrong?

if i had a chance to have sex with Kurt Cobain, i would. oh, i would - over and over and over. truth be told, i've never been around him though (he's dead).

so, tell me: how do pictures of him turn me on? do they have 'the scent' as well?
how are people attracted to women / men in porn?
does porno come with a "jerk / poke n' sniff"?

=.=

actually, yea. everyone starts out as a female, so i guess they'd all be BISEXUAL. :)

^^ though, that's without all the technical stuff. :P

One of the other deciding factors in sexual attraction, besides olfaction (smell), is visual perception and audition (voice/sounds). Or you could just be horny at the time. :P

I was joking, lol. Even though I don't believe it's a choice, I'm not going to argue. I've done this so many times, and the topic is really boring.

true.

however, one can learn to perceive things differently - as in, they don't view things the same way, all the time.

one minute, Zac Efron is a hunk. the other, he's your average looking guy.
or you may just get tired of him, and move on.

but if you're limited to only being attracted to one gender, the same smell, sounds, and looks shouldn't get boring. well, unless each person has his / her own individual smell, looks, and sounds. then it'd be a buffet, right?

so, you can't say you're only attracted to women, because maybe you haven't found the right one with the right smell, looks, and sounds.
you also can't say you're only attracted to men, because maybe you haven't found the right one with the right smell, looks, and sounds.

because, if i'm right, there's over 6 billion different dishes you can sample.



^^ see the flaw in my logic? it only proves that one cannot be born gay or a lesbian.
what about being born bisexual?

well, if you like what steak looks like, sounds likes, and smells like, it doesn't mean you're only going to eat steak, and like it. it just means you have a preference, and that you can change it at any time (if you find something else you like). ergo, you have a choice.

then lets say that i replied so no one else can make an argument like yours, and get away with it. :)

Whatever you say. I only said that lactose intolerant thing as a joke. I seriously wouldn't argue a sexual preference is to being lactose intolerant.

I wasn't even responding to your post. I was responding to KK3869. You can't say that everybody always have a choice. Somethings just happen genetically.

But whatever. It's all good homie.

lol yea, sure homie. ^^

and not everyone has a choice, i know that.

it's just.. with this, you should have a choice.

if you say you only like guys and you are one, you're gay.
if you say you only like girls and you are one, you're a lesbian.
if you say you like both, you're bisexual.

anyone can choose to like something. i can choose to like Ryan (Fade), if i wanted to.
does that mean i'm limited to only liking him, or people like him? of course not.
it only means that there's certain things about him that i like more than others.
does that mean that every other guy is the same? no way.

in a way, everyone is bisexual, they just have a preference.

and, about preferences: they aren't always the same. they can change from year to year, month to month, or even day to day. and you know how they change? because you choose to change them. your mind doesn't just go, "oh, i think i'll stop liking steaks because they're made out of animals."

*rollseyes*

SEX is not FOOD! >,<



Also, your responses completely lack all logic or data. It's all based on opinion, which means what you argue only occurs in your little fantasy world.



You choose the music to which you listen, the food you put into your mouth and the colors you flash before your eyes.

You don't choose to dislike or like a certain kind of music, it just doesn't sound good to you. It doesn't stimulate the pleasure receptor in your brain. The food you dislike is rejected by your taste buds, not by your thoughts.

"I think I WANT this burger to taste like rotting animal flesh, while that burger tastes like chocolate ice cream"

The last time I checked, that's not how the world worked.

You paint your room blue. You chose the color. You chose it because it appeals to you more than any of the other thousand hues, shades, tints in the world. But why? Did you decide that the color blue is going to make you happier than the color red?

How about even more basic.

You are an infant. Mommy puts strained peas into your mouth.. mmm.. Then she tries to get you to try the squash. As soon as it touches your mouth you pucker up and spit it out. What's the deciding factor now? Is your brain capable of making coherent decisions?

"goo-goo, I want steak." no. no. you are wrong.


And just so you know, we don't all start out as female. We start out as unisex. The X or Y chromosome donated to the zygote by the father doesn't react until the late stags of the development of the child.

For what you are saying to be true, we would all start out with a set of ovaries and a functioning mammary glands. Men have nipples because in the womb, the baby needs to be prepared to change into a woman if that is what it is intended to be.

I guess this is all, for now.

Except:

So being gay is wrong, now?

Rawr, I'm a bi guy. :P

And being gay straight is too a choice. If you think you are gay. You choose to stay that way. :)

I pwn you all with lightsabers. Sorry, Ghost had candy. :P

.,:;'`Ghost`';:,.

Straight.

It's a choice. If your gay and happy with it, I could care less. Same if your Bi.

Yup, ever heard of a Gay guy attacking someone because they are straight?

i'm straight and i think being gay is a choice. sorry if i offend someone.