Title: Suicide
Poptart - April 8, 2008 01:26 AM (GMT)
my friend may be comitting suicide tonight, i don't know if its final yet, or when i'll know, or even if i'll know, but this will be the first time i permanently lost a friend, so although i'm not very active i probably will be even less active, if thats possible.
Morendo - April 8, 2008 02:06 AM (GMT)
So here you are talking about it.
Is there nothing you can do to stop them?
Tailz - April 8, 2008 02:10 AM (GMT)
Errr yea,you need to do everything in your power to stop them.Wether thats going to their house and staying all night or keeping them at yours.When my friend tried I made him stay in contact with me for 2 days o_o thank god i talked him out of it.
Iko - April 8, 2008 02:11 AM (GMT)
Syarith - April 8, 2008 02:16 AM (GMT)
My "friend" committed suicide because of problems with her parents. I just wish I got to knew her better..she died 3 months ago. And to stop your friend from committing suicide, I suggest telling them to listen to themselves before they do anything, and look at the life they have and what future they have planned. It's like I am already reliving that suicidal nightmare by just reading this thread.. Oh well.. a loss is a loss. But even someone who may not even matter can change and impact someone's life. If you can convince your friend not to commit suicide, then you've done well.
Iko - April 8, 2008 02:17 AM (GMT)
He might just be saying that aswell. If he knows he has a good life waiting for him, he/she won't be able to physically or mentally bring himself/herself to do it.
Syarith - April 8, 2008 02:23 AM (GMT)
But Iko. One misconception you forget to mention was that how could he know if he'll have a good life ahead if he's the one planning it? And if they planned it to be bad then they may as well go ahead but they shouldnt do that still because they can alter their plans to be having a GOOD life.
Iko - April 8, 2008 02:32 AM (GMT)
Well I'm not the brightest bird in the nest. ><
I like to try to help people. :D
Iceh - April 8, 2008 05:21 AM (GMT)
Yaya it's ME time.
One. It's you're friend's choice. If he/she wants to end her life, with pleasure please do so.
Two. People who say that they are going to kill themselves have a 50/50 percent of actually killing themselves. They just want the attention/affection from people who they think don't care.
Three. If you are he/she friend. You would have to understand what they are going through before trying to stop them. If you don't know and act like you do and want them to stop just because you think it's stupid. No. People have reasons why they do stuff. Have you asked him/her the reason why yet?
Four. If you're friends wants to read this. I advise you tell him/her to.
Those who kill themselves. I view them as selfish people. When you do kill yourself what do you gain? What you will gain to other people is, pain, suffering, and regretion from people who do care about you. Are you that blind of yourself to even think of taking your own life. And yet you told people that you were. How much time will you make people around be hurt just because you act like youre so greatly in life. You are a human. You get hurt what you can't handle the pain and decided to end it just because you can. I rather give your life to someone else who wants to live then a person who doesn't. You are someone who doesnt even deserve a life on this world and yes I am cruel. But i am not going to give pity to people who wants to kill themselves.
Why do you people act like your the only fricken person in the damn world who goes through lots of s**t. Yet so, even so young!
Selfish, cruel, can only think about themselves. But your actions are stupid and your mind isnt fully thinkable. So why do you want to end it all? Why do you wanna run away so much? Why not face it and be stronger? Unless you're just a weak as punk who think they can't do anything. Well then kill yourself. We need more people to bury and we need less idiots in the world.
You have a roof over you head, you have parents that take care of you. You have an education. You have things that you wanted. And yet you are willing to throw all of that away because of your selfish thinking? You have no clue how tough it is. Yet even so you're still a kid and kids are stupid. They regret too much things. And the only thing they think about is killing themselves.
Do you think people will be happy if you're gone. Do you think youre parents will be happy? Do you think the people that will love you to the end of their days, will live to see you happy when they are older? No because you're going to kill yourself away.
What about the happy times. The moments that you still have that made you feel the greatest. The friends that respect you. And the people who you love. How would they feel if you're gone.
They will only blame themselves. They will never blame you. Because they care about you. They only blame themselves because they will think they didnt give you enough and that you couldnt love you enough and that they couldnt do anything to please you enough.
So how many times will you hurt the people you love. Don't hid the fact that you do.
Why would you make anyone feel like that? How many more times will you hurt those people? How many more times?
Think about what youre going to do. Because if you don't. How would your soul be at peace?
I'm just making you think of your reasons in doing so. Your reason is none of what I am thinking of. But for a person to go as far as killing themselves. I don't believe I need to know your reason. Dont hesitate to do something. Just do it.
Pain, you have no clue what is pain.
Ven - April 8, 2008 05:29 AM (GMT)
They should be glad they even have a life at all. Or be glad they were born, and I agree its a selfish act. But also you could end up saving them if you get a chance to find out what happend to them that made them do it. But actually considering you said it was tonight...it might have already happend. And we all just wasted our time preaching about somthing that us our selves cannot stop from happening. You obviously werent that good of friends or else you wouldnt be here wasting your time telling us about it. You should be there making your so called friend happy and telling he/she that too many people would miss him/her. Even if he/she says no one would...you know damn well you would. That is all.
Iceh - April 8, 2008 05:33 AM (GMT)
But why show pity for them? That is all the wanted but yet said something to stupidly just to get it. WHY MUST AN ACT BE THAT FAR?
Just get a ball and shake it. And repeat. DO YOU LOVE ME. The ball will alwase say YES. Seriously people.
Don't ask for attention if you only want pity.
But with all do respect. Have you stabbed yourself yet? Dear friend of poptart?
Poptart - April 8, 2008 07:34 PM (GMT)
alright, well first off, if there was anything i COULD do to stop her, i would, we live inj two different states so theres not much i can do. I would contact her parents in some way but the only number i have for her is her cell and its on my cell which, what do you know, i lost like 2 months ago. Secondly i tried to reason with her, i too have had suicidal thoughts in the past before but i pulled through them, but only becuase i knew for a fact that deep down i had friends that actually cared about me, and i tried being that friend for her but i don't think it worked. I know that it was her choice to do it, but maybe it wasn't really her choice, she had skitzaphrinea (don't know how to spell it) so she had voices in her head telling her all sorts of things, that could have been a leading cause in it, i don't know that for a fact but its highly possible. i think i addressed everything, probably not though.
Iceh - April 8, 2008 07:44 PM (GMT)
I could understand that you tried whatever you can to help your friend but the thing is you cannot help those who dont want help. Just gottas leave thembe and let them do whatever they please. Even if you care, to them they are just blinded to see that. Nothing is of course your fault. You tried to help ur friend but your friend now doesnt need help. And there is nothing you can do for ur friend now.
Zunder - April 8, 2008 08:42 PM (GMT)
Apart from looking at the fact that suicide is a crime, you should try and get your friend to think about what they are doing, maybe take a walk up a hill and think about your live and how you can improve it without looking to ending it altogether, things can always be prepared; unless their perminantly broken, so don't break yourself.
Roadkill - April 8, 2008 08:51 PM (GMT)
If you are serious call the cops. He might hate you for it but do it.
Iko - April 11, 2008 02:08 AM (GMT)
Did she do it? :O
Just curious.
Sorry. ><
Bluezone777 - April 11, 2008 03:05 AM (GMT)
http://bzfanfictionstudio.spreebb.com/index.php?showforum=44There is a story in that forum on my old BZ board called Two Thousand and One. there is four chapters and I suggest you read this story and all of its chapters if you want the best idea I can show you as to the mentality of a suicidal person and what might drive someone to want to do it. I do warn the story is graphic in nature.
Baretta was suicidal and one of the first people I helped pull through his suicidal desires after both a lifetime( he was around 17 when we met on there) of abuse and being raped back in 2001 all brought about this desire to die. he attempted it several times with the last attempt being after taking a bunch of cocaine to relieve his depression which only drove him mad and he ended up pulling a loaded gun on his sleeping GF and his sister with intent of killing himself and them as he was trying to prevent them from suffering anymore because of him. I spent about three or so hours talking to him via AIM and trying to get him to stop before his GF woke up and ripped the gun out of his hands( he had it pointed right at her face) and knocked him out with it. and she said it herself... if I wasn't on that morning then they would all be killed that day.
So if you can reach this person via any means then you can help them through it and should do so. People in that state aren't thinking right and if you keep at it and don't say anything stupid then you can help them to reconsider what they are doing.
this quote from his story says it all really:
| QUOTE |
As I lay here, finishing off this story, I have one thing to say to you, the reader. Value your life. Something might happen to you sooner or later, or, something might have already happened to you. No matter what happens, don’t think that throwing everything away will fix ANYTHING. You have to build on the foundations of the section of life you have already lived.
To understand what life truly means, one must experience almost losing it. Only then, will you realize that living your life is the most useful thing you can do. Nobody is useless. Do not ask for a light load. Ask for a strong back. For the willow knows what the storm does not: that the power to endure harm outlives the power to inflict it. |
Iceh - April 11, 2008 03:29 AM (GMT)
I read the whole thing and cried at the end.