Do you ever condone violence? If so when?

Yes I do. When it's necessary.

Wow, you're very descriptive, lol.


I only condone violence when used to defend oneself or others from harm.

I can be violent from time to time ill admit it. Normally more vocally then physically, but i have been known to get physical, and well they didnt like that too much =/

Iam with simplyatbliss. I only condone violence when used to defend oneself or others from harm. However if everyone belived that then there wouldnt be any violence lol.

I never condone violence, because I stand by the fact that violence is never the answer so I never resort to it.

Besides, it's pointless and completely unnecessary to condone violence. Because until we stop resorting to violence, we are all still savages.

Well someone hit me i hit back of course. And then there's the fights i have against my brother.

I think Jean Rasczak put it best:
'Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst.'

Very well said, I pretty much agree with that, but in a way, I believe violence can be necessary in certain acts, such as revenge, but that is for another topic.

It's not wishful thinking at all - you've heard it all your life and still resort to it, thus making things WORSE and still being savages. What, are you supposed to have pride in violent actions you commit? I don't think so. So that quote is completely bogus.

Because people are involved in violence doesn't mean they take pride in it. Some acts of violence are wrong, while others do it to protect themselves or others. I do believe we should always look for an answer that does not involve violence to solve a problem but sometimes violence is the only option we have after we've exhausted everything else. It's a sad truth, but violence is sometimes the only solution.

Topic Moved. I can really see this becoming a heated debate. ;)

Did you just quote Starship Troopers? lol.

yup.

however, it isn't always right to resort to violence.

for example, you should never violently assault your grandmother. that's just mean.

Lol, stupid movie but the quote has some substance.

Very stupid movie. I don't understand how people like that movie. I tried to like it, but I just couldn't.

Anyways, I can't see the substance. Somebody's going to have to explain that to me or I'll eat these cookies by myself.

When I mean it has some substance, I mean that sometimes the only answer is violence. No matter how much we may not want to fight, sometimes it's the only course of action.

Yeah, but the quote says that "Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else," which I think is the most important part of the quote and the part I'm iffy about.

Hmm this is true I think, if a conflict breaks out diplomacy often doesn't work anymore especially when both sides are "old" enemies. Often violence or the threat of violence will make one off the fighting sides stop (or both if a third party gets involved) on the other hand violence leads to revenge and therefor more violence. If two sides have been fighting violence AND diplomacy will often lead to the same thing: one side feels grudge for loosing or not getting 1cm of land (yup sarcasm) and those sort of things.
I think it's dependent in/between which cultures a war is being fought, in some cultures honor is valued and loosing is not an option nor is creating a truce because you would loose honor. So both diplomacy and violence could be a viable option to end a conflict depending on the situation

Ps. Against violence but sometimes it's needed, blame humans for being humans

I'm pretty damn violent. I've never gotten into a fight before though. I've drawn little comic of me killing people. And stuff. Ya know?

But I have scared people when I scream at them. It's 'kay. Ugly people can scream to.


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I am a violent person when people annoy me. I have anger management problems. But I try to control myself on the net.

Violence is horrible, your not violent your just angry which is normal.

Violence is sometimes necessary, its called 'fighting back'

Haha, the quote is originally by the author of said character, Robert Heinlein. I find that the full text is much more persuasive.

"Anyone who clings to the historically untrue -and thoroughly immoral- doctrine that violence never settles anything I would advise to conjure up the ghosts of Napoleon Bonaparte and the Duke of Wellington and let them debate it. The ghost of Hitler would referee. Violence, naked force, has settled more isuues in history than any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worse. Breeds that forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and their freedom."